The Sheeple Analyst: Slithering and Dithering around WMD Lies
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A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.- Bertrand de Juvenal Mr. Sheeple: Before you shove Wilsons anti-Bush Adminstration book in my face, consider first the valid questions posed by Newsma.com. Below are samples of the questions that need to be answered. You've repeatedly said there's no evidence that Iraq purchased yellowcake uranium from Niger. But President Bush never claimed it did. What Bush said was "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." Are you saying there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Iraq sought uranium from Niger, especially since it purchased hundreds of tons of yellowcake from Niger in the 1980s?
Sheeple Analyst: Oh stop whining and
leaving piddles all over the floor. Newsmax is just a propaganda
machine like all the others you've subscribed to in the past.
Their information is so slanted there is almost no place to get
any traction. So I treat Newsmax by subtraction. I delete it from
my sources. But you can't do that to one of the books of your
bible. Are you saying there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Iraq sought uranium from Niger, especially since it purchased hundreds of tons of yellowcake from Niger in the 1980s? I don't have to say anything. It's already been proven. The issue was not about 1980 but about 2001. There was no issue with Saddam in the 1980's. The Reagan/Bush regime attempted to get pipeline deals from Saddam but he didn't like his cut. But that didn't stop them from sending Donald on a "diplomatic" mission. You and other Bush critics have repeatedly said that British intelligence on Iraq's attempt to purchase yellowcake uranium was based on forged documents. But Tony Blair has specifically said his intelligence relies on separate information that has nothing to do with the forged documents. How can you say that there's no evidence unless you know what evidence Tony Blair has? How can you say that there's no evidence unless you know what evidence Tony Blair has? Tony Blair is as much a
liar as Bush. What kind of truth do you expect from him? Whatever
he briar patch you wish to propose, it is just more tangling and
angling for a way out. That's obvious to those who watch the
congregants of your churchinsanity bow and scrape to the followers
of Satan. But you won't know what that means until it's too late.
So it is with sheeple. Mr. Sheeple: It is a "propaganda machine" only in the legend of your own mind because it does not spout that which fits in your preconceived thoughts.
Sheeple Analyst: Of course not. Newsmax is a
propaganda machine because it spouts that which fits YOUR
preconceived thoughts. Since you have adopted your ideology as
your identity, everything is wrapped up in the doctrine and dogma
of your churchinsanity. Mr. Sheeple: It isn't a shock, of course, that the CIA believed Iraq possessed stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. The Clinton Administration bombed Iraq for four days in December 1998 based on that assessment. Every other major intelligence agency in the world believed the same. What is new in the Woodward account is the extent to which Mr. Bush appears to have been a thoughtful and critical consumer of such intelligence. The President reportedly told Mr. Tenet several times, "Make sure no one stretches to make our case." All of which puts the "Bush lied" crowd in a rather awkward spot. "He misled every one of us," John Kerry has said. "He lied to me personally." Ted Kennedy: "Week after week after week after week, we were told lie after lie after lie after lie." Sheeple Analyst: Tenet told Bush Administration to take the reference to WND out of his Cincinnati speech in 2002. Is that a fact or not? Opinion Journal is well named. Opinion. Not fact. And you belong to the 87% segment of the population that rely on opinion because you can't handle a rational thought process when confronting a problem. That's why you always mouth opinion instead of fact and when the rare moment that a fact arises it is based on ignorance or stupidity....your version of mathematics based on your long experience in shop...I mean industrial arts.....I mean vocational education... You have no clue when shown the physics of free fall, the heat conductivity of steel, the mathematics of kinetics, the chemistry of aluminum oxidation, the parameters of jet fuel combustion, the Jews coming to an empty Palestine, the causes of war......the list goes on and on. Then you take solace in your handlers that you are just being attacked by those "know-it-all liberals." That's what they do, you know. Except for the fact that I'm not a liberal and you're not a conservative. You've abandoned conservative principles to follow the Zionist traitors who have flummoxed the 87% into thinking they are conservatives. You don't need to embarrass yourself any longer. I understand how and why sheeple are as they are. They're just among the 87% of the populations who just can't or won't. So I won't take up any more of your time reading my information. You haven't read it any way. You'll just form an opinion. I have all the sheeple documentation that I need. Mr. Sheeple:
Everytime there is a
conflict in the world, UFOs are seen in the region. Perhaps they
should come down in force and show themselves and everybody will
be so shocked that political differences would seem a minor
concern. Everyone would fill their britches. Sheeple Analyst: Usually when
preparing a military campaign, surveillance is useful to make
corrections to other sources of intelligence data. One way to
obtain this sensitive data is by the use of drones aircraft. Those
might be unidentified flying objects, too. Or not. Mr. Sheeple: Yeah, I am aware of surveillance by the military, having been in the military myself. And, I have been long aware of drone aircraft, so do not need a condescending lecture as accorded an unknowning little kid. There would be no point in flying drones in formation and with lights because lights would not be effective at the high altitudes drones usually fly, and the lights would make them obvious. One advantage of drones is they fly at such high altitudes they cannot be seen or heard but their optical systems can scan the ground in high detail and transmit that to the ground station from which they are flown by radio control. Sheeple Analyst: You were in the
military? Hunh! Well then, I guess you know all about those
surveillance things and drones then, don't you. You probably know
about the alien space craft supposedly studied by the US military
for the past fifty years, too. Well, then, I bet you could provide
me a super neat-o condescending lecture on the subject of your
expertise. Subject: Re: WorldNetDaily Saddam's WMDs are in Syria
Ms Sheeple Analyst: dick ...allens puter not
working, keyboard quit..... Mr. Sheeple: Just a repeat of the last one. continually sending the same message will not make the failed keyboard work. Got the message the first time! Why clutter up my inbox by three identical messages? Sheeple Analyst:
Don't know why Kay hit send three times but sometimes Yahoo
does strange things. Mr. sheeple: I
thought perhaps you had the idea that if the message was repeated
often enough I would begin to believe it as the truth. Sheeple Analyst: You thought.....!!!! Impossible....!!!! That was an unthinking reaction, as usual without substance. SIX TIMES you missed the clever word clues Kay left for you:
SIX TIMES...!!! It took a direct hit to the forehead to dislodge your dysfunctional program and you still go on making excuses for a repeated error in reading the obvious. This isn't terribly
significant normally except for the fact that it is not occasional
and it affects your cognitive ability. Clearly, the only way you
will learn is by a 2 X 4 across the nose and there is sufficient
doubt that that would work. Mr. Sheeple: Perhaps you need to contact Dr. Allawi who may know more of the facts than you do. Plainly miffed that Dr. Allawi hadn't accepted the U.S. media's attempt to cover-up links between Saddam, al Qaida and 9/11, Brokaw reprimanded him as cameras rolled: "Prime minister, I'm surprised that you would make the connection between 9/11 and the war in Iraq. The 9/11 commission in America says there is no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam Hussein and those terrorists of al-Qaida." But Dr. Allawi refused to back down, telling the top TV anchor: "No. I believe very strongly that Saddam had relations with al-Qaida. And these relations started in Sudan. We know Saddam had relationships with a lot of terrorists and international terrorism. Now, whether he is directly connected to the September atrocities or not, I can't vouch for this. But definitely I know he has connections with extremism and terrorists." NewsMax.com Inside Cover Story Sheeple Analyst: Facts? What facts? "I believe very strongly." he said. Is THAT a fact? ".whether he is directly connected to the September atrocities or not, I can't vouch for this." Is that a proof of a link to al Qaeda? Strong opinion or belief is not proof. The people of Iraq know Dr. Allawi as a CIA asset, a former associate of Saddam Hussein. They know that, like the Iraq Governing Council, Allawi had been installed by the occupying forces, a puppet of the United States. What then would you expect of such a man....truth? You listened to Chalabi through the mouths of Perle, Veith, Rice, Wolfowitz, Cheney, and Bush..... and got lies. The mobile labs finally identified as hydrogen generators for artillery balloons. The Nigerian yellow-cake fraud exposed to the derisive chortling of the rest of the world. Colin Powell embarrassed himself before the UN with "proof " that was not proof and rationale that was without basis in fact. The' Bush Liars' Club has become the laughing stock of the world and the American sheeple are seen as hopelessly muddled and ignorant. To save face you must make excuses and rationalizations: "Well, they are in ships sailing about the seas." "The Iraqi WMD is now in Syria." "The Iraqi WMD is in Iran." "Well, they were thinking about it!" "Nigeria has oil; THEY must have Saddam's WMD!" 15 months later and still no REAL evidence. Dr. Allawi just says so. You cannot let the REAL truth show you how gullible you have been so there is always whining and babbling and raging when I point out the inconsistencies, lack of evidence, lack of logic. I've watched you grasp at any straw to save your precious ideology. Why not make your ideology the unfettered search for truth no matter the cost? Such allegiance to an ideology and an authority typically stems from one's childhood in which something stopped the normal development of a fully functioning adult. Such sheeple need authority figures to provide them assurances and security in a world that frightens them into submission as a feudal serf. There is a way out, but you prefer the comfort of your chosen ideology and favored icons. Truth is an inconvenience in such a world. Now you are salivating over the words of another liar like a little puppy. You haven't even proved al Qaeda exists but for covert actions of Mossad. Israelis pretending to be Arabs tried to set up an al Qaeda cell in Palestine and got caught. Israelis pretending to be Arabs have been involved in many covert actions that lead silly sheeple to believe that the perpetrators are Arabs of al Qaeda. You think I am any more interested in Allawi's "facts" than I was in Chalabi's?
You know that we told you before!
You don't get something for nothing, Neal Peert (Rush) Says it well. Mr. Sheeple: In past emails, to support your belief that Iraq never had WMD/chemical weapons, you assert that Iran gassed the Kurds in Northern Iraq, not Saddam. Now, are you claiming that Iran is now blaming Iraq for something Iran did? Or, did Iraq actually gas the Kurds but you are trying to rationalize it by claiming that Iran did it because the idea of Saddam doing it to their own people runs against what you want to desperately believe; that Iraq did not have WMD and therefore maintain the "illegal war" status. Iran Prepares Complaint Against Saddam TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran said Sunday it has prepared a criminal complaint against former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein for his 1980 invasion of Iran and for using chemical weapons against Iranians during the neighboring nations' eight-year war. Sheeple Analyst: Why don't you just read the report about the US War College study and get this millstone off your neck? I didn't do the investigation, just reported it so silly ass sheeple could get honest reporting instead of the propaganda swill they've considered news. But you get to choose just how ignorant you will be. If Iran thinks they can get away with it, they will try. You have an amazing naiveté. You accept as true what Iran says and then dismiss as untrue what Iran says about US shipping WMD into Iraq with no difference in either case other than no factual evidence. In this case there IS factual evidence. It does not simply arise from my opinion. In March 1991 as the massive US-led attack on Iraq ended, I was visiting the USAWC to give a lecture on South Asian security and discussed this problem with professor Pelletiere at lunch. I recall Pelletiere telling me that the USAWC investigation showed that in the Iranian mass human wave battlefield strategy, Teheran used non-persistent poison gas against Iraqi soldiers so as to be able to attack and advance into the areas vacated by Iraqis. On the other hand, Baghdad used persistent gas to halt the Iranian human wave attacks. There was a certain consistency to this pattern. However, in the Halabjah incident, the USAWC investigators discovered that the gas used that killed hundreds of Kurds was the non-persistent gas, the chemical weapon of choice of the Iranians. Note it was the Iranians who arrived at the scene first, who reported the incident to UN observers, and who took pictures of the gassed Kurdish civilians. However, Saddam Hussein's Iraq invaded and annexed Kuwait in August and the truth of the Halabjah incident became inconvenient. /Politics%20and%20History/GaseousLies.htm Truth is always inconvenient to ideologues. I'm not in the habit of asserting from opinion but from facts, principles and/or logic. You have shown from this email and others that you are comfortable asserting from hearsay, conjecture and opinion. If truth were more important than your security blanket, you would not be so cavalier with opinion and have the courage to seek the truth, no matter what. The gas used in Halabja was a blood agent which Iraq did not have or use at the time. Mr. Sheeple: Perhaps you should fly to Iraq and tell the Polish troops they are mistaken because, in your opinion, the WMD they allegedly found do not exist. And/or, perhaps also contact the Department of Defense and inform them that, in your opinion the WMDs do not exist and that they are imagining that. Don't bother whining to me with your rationalizations, go straight to the source! WorldNetDaily Iraqi chemical weapons found by Polish troops Polish troops in Iraq recently have discovered "16 or 17" warheads containing sarin or mustard gas, according to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. "Now these are weapons that we always knew Saddam Hussein had that he had not declared, and they have tested them, and I have not seen them, and I have not tested them, but they believe that they are correct that these, in fact, were undeclared chemical weapons ... ," Rumsfeld told radio talk host Roger Hedgecock in an interview transcribed and posted on the Department of Defense website. Sheeple Analyst: Perhaps you should fly to Grants Pass, Oregon and tell the Maronite Christian propagandist, Joe Farah to provide a real source of information that at least would have told you that they had only found two shells that had tested positive. The other dozen have not yet been tested and their date: pre Gulf War or earlier. Wow. That's big news. Ringy-ding-ding. I've noticed how you get real smart-alecky when you think you have a big story with which to pummel me. Without spending even a little time fact-checking, you jump up and run around barking. Then because you have been betrayed by the slanted, sloppy work of WND or Newsmax or some other neocon trash news, the bubble pops and you are left looking really silly. I really dislike having to be so honest with you, but someone has to tell you you're barking up the wrong tree. You seem to insist on it, though, so all I can do is laugh and provide facts, principles and/or logic to straighten out the chairs after you've raced through the house and spun circles, barking. Nicole has a dog like that. Casey will be snoozing on the floor and all of a sudden jump up, race a short distance, spin clockwise and bark several times. Then he'll go lie down and go off to sleep again. Funny dog. She says he's deaf, blind in one eye and literally cannot see much out the other. I'd imagine Casey has formed quite a few opinions, too. Notice in the WND article that Rumsfeld warmed up the old chestnut about Iraq being a pretty big place the size of California as though he had never declared that he knew EXACTLY where the WMD will be found. 1 YEAR & 83 DAYS ... AND STILL NO WMD FOUND IN IRAQ. ITS BEEN 2 YEARS & 288 DAYS... SINCE BUSH SAID HE'D CATCH OSAMA BIN LADEN 'Dead or Alive!' See a pattern here? Why don't you go to Iraq and find it for Bush and Big Dick Cheney? And then you can go to Afghanistan to track down bin Laden. Or dig up a new set of rationalizations. It's over there! No, it's over there! Don't bother whining to me, go to the source. David Kay had a great time. I'd pitch the last hundred bucks into the hat to get you a ticket, but I'd hate to be responsible for you having to breath the Depleted Uranium in the desert dust.
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Today WARSAW (AP) - Polish troops have found two warheads in Iraq believed to contain a deadly nerve agent, but it is not clear what period the weapons came from, the Defense Ministry said Thursday. The two warheads were found in early June in a bunker in the area controlled by Polish forces, and they tested positive for cyclosarin, a substance many times stronger than sarin, the ministry said in a statement. "There is no doubt that the warheads contain chemical weapons," Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski told TVN24. "The problem is what period they came from, whether the (Persian) Gulf War or earlier, and whether they were usable, partly usable or not at all." Another dozen were found later in June and were being tested in Baghdad and the United States, he said. "Some of them are very corroded. They are probably not usable, but are dangerous to the local environment," Szmajdzinski said. In May, an artillery shell apparently filled with the sarin nerve agent was discovered at the side of the road in Baghdad by U.S. forces. Officials at the time stopped short of claiming the munition was definite evidence of a large weapons stockpile in prewar Iraq or evidence of recent production by Saddam Hussein's regime. Poland sent troops to the U.S.-led war to oust Saddam Hussein and commands some 6,200 international troops - including some 2,400 from Poland - in south-central Iraq. The Poles seem to be clear what's going on. Maybe the joke is really how many Farahs does it take to get a story straight. Mr. Sheeple sent: WorldNetDaily: Saddam's WMDs are in Syria On Jan. 5, 2004, Nizar Nayouf, a Syrian journalist who recently defected to France, said in a letter to the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that chemical and biological weapons were smuggled from Iraq into Syria before the war began, when Saddam realized he would be attacked by the U.S. Nayouf claimed to know three sites where Iraq's WMDs are kept: in tunnels under the town of al-Baida in northern Syria, part of an underground factory built by North Korea for producing a Syrian version of the Scud missile; in the village of Tal Snan, adjacent to a Syrian Air Force base; and in Sjinsjar, on the border with Lebanon Ms Sheeple Analyst replied: dick ...allens puter not working, keyboard quit.... just a note from me: just who is the biggest terrorist country in
the world, has been since its beginnings. Who has the WMD's and has been
using it on its own citizens as well as others all over the world. Who is
the biggest power and misuses its power illegally agains the
world?........why do people hate us?, Because we are hypocrites, and
bullies and terrorists....k Who is the biggest power and misuses its power illegally agains the
world?....I suppose the U.S. military power is "illegally used", in your
opinion, to defend the U.S. Sheeple Analyst: "Who has the WMD's and has been using it on
its own citizens" The anthrax used in the anthrax scare came from the Ames
strain only available from US source, traced to Fort Detrick MD where the
surveillance cameras recorded the military man surreptitiously entering
the facility when he was no longer working there.
I wonder who offended you so about hippies that you continue to fume about them so many years later. That comment is totally inappropriate and irrelevant to the present discussion. Mr. Sheeple sent: http://www.newscientist.com/opinion/opinterview.jsp;jsessionid=GLDCDELINKLI?id=ns24531
Sheeple Analyst: Wolfowitz has already told us that the WMD ploy was selected for its
PR impact. This article that you insist is proof of WMD is instead proof
that very little remained of the biological warfare potential. Certainly
not a sufficient reason to violate our international agreements which by
their ratification stand as our own law, exhaust the US Treasury, push the
US economy to the brink of collapse, kill and maim tens of thousands of
Americans, kill and maim hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, poison a country
with radioactive munitions, destroy their infrastructure, steal their oil
and antiquities, commit innumerable war crimes....over the possibility
that a few vials of germs remain.
In the first event, oil facilities and the Iraqi Oil Ministry were
immediately secured, but the nuclear facilities were not secured for
weeks, if at all. During that time looters stripped everything they could
get hold of and sold it for scrap. Nuclear triggers and rocket engines
from Iraq have been found in Rotterdam and all over the world, hauled out
by the truckload. Items that UNMOVIC had identified, tagged and monitored
were stolen and exported in the chaos of the illegal invasion. What had
been secured became unsecured by the actions of the Bush Liars' Club. The
world became less safe by their stupidity and carelessness. It's amazing how you persist in playing the fool to these murderers. Your personality type is clearly authority-dependent. Eric Hoffer wrote:
That's the reason sheeple are so stupid...it's molded in their personality by their childhood environment, their parents, teachers, and peers. Facts, principles, and/or logic don't seem to matter as much as emotion and opinion because their social development has been arrested in childhood, and they are always searching for a father figure to look up to, to protect them in a strange and chaotic world. Only intensive therapy can get them over the knot in their inner being and they don't have the capacity to see that they need help. Mr. Sheeple: Seems to me you sent me something from the world tribune, so you must
think it is a reliable source.
Sheeple Analyst: I hope you read more than headlines. The text of the article does NOT
support the allegation that Saddam shipped WMD materials out of Iraq
before, during, or after the invasion. No UN official was quoted making
any such statement. In fact, if this were an attempt to remove WMD, why
does the material end up in scrap yards and why with the UN tags still on?
There is no identification of WHO removed the scrap, but a more reasonable
explanation based upon observation is that looters disassembled every bit
of metal that they could to obtain cash, having nothing to do with Saddam
or any Iraqi official. Mr. Sheeple: more rationalization Sheeple Analyst: You know a few big words, but it would help if you knew the definitions and used them properly in a sentence. Mr. Sheeple: Rationalization: "1. to ascribe (one's acts, opinions etc.) to causes that superficially seem reasonable and valid but that actuallty are unrelated to the true, possible unconscious and often less creditable or agreeable causes. 2. to remove unreasonable delemtns from. 3. to make rational or comformable to reason. 7. to invent plausible explanations for acts, opinions, e5tc., that areactually based on other causes:He tried to prove that he was not at fault, but he was obviously rationalizing." Sheeple Analyst: So! You CAN use a dictionary! Good! Now try
using the definition to examine my assertion below and show how it is an
example of a rationalization that I have made in that email message.
Remember that the alleged "rationalization" from the Sunday, June 13 email
must be unrelated to pertinent facts, principles, and/or logic regarding a
topic at issue. You will need to back up your opinions with real facts,
principles and/or logic. Remember, too, that opinions are NOT reasons or
facts.
And after all this, you still have not acknowledged that you totally misread the article that YOU sent to me to "document" your opinion about WMD. Mr. Sheeple: You speak of "freedom". In a previous email, you stated you had "information on me" in the form of 2.5 years of emails on file! Apparently, you do not consider that as a matter of expressing my right of freedom of expression and opinion as per the Constitution of the United States just because I express dissent regarding your views rather than "rolling over" and blindly accepting your concepts. Concepts often offered with out proof they are valid but government is wrong. Sheeple Analyst: Yes, you have the right to your own opinion. And
you have the right to inflict your ignorance on others, as well. I simply
pointed out that if you wish to inflict your narrow-minded programming on
others, especially children and their parents, that I would have plenty of
information to show the shallowness of your own thought processes and
limited knowledge of facts, principles, and/or logic as you have so amply
demonstrated. I HAVE documented and documented, provided ample sources and
routes to examine, but you have rigidly resisted all of that and resisted
even doing your OWN research on the topic, other than a few shallow
attempts to gather information just to prove me wrong. When I answer these
unsubstantiated rebuttals with facts, principles, and/or logic, you
slighter, dither and dodge. Mr. Sheeple: P.S. Re: previous email regarding "rationalization"! I find it interesting that you regard any anti-Bush, anti-government story as credible when derived from leftist or left-learning sources, but reject as "lies" that from the right or right-leaning sources on the same topic. Alternet is of a leftist slant and profoundly anti government but fails to offer an alternative to that which they condemn, as you do yourself. You have quoted extensively from www.moveon.org which is a liberal left Democrat political action committee funded by the radical millionaire, anti-Bush, George Soros who vows to spend his entire multi-billion fortune to defeat Bush and the Republicans! Alright, so Bush and the Republicans are voted out of the Whitehouse and Congress in November! What then, Liberal left Democrats who created and perpetuated the infamous "Great Society" social spending that created the dependence on government? True, the current Republican Congress is not doing much better, something that irritates me as a former liberal Democrat who naively believed in the infamous Great Society and became an independent midway through Carter's disasterous disasterous administration. In the '80 elections, I considered not voting for the lesser of two evils, but decided that Reagan would be a better option than Carter that gave us 20 percent interest rates, 18 percent inflation and a general "malaise". Under Reagan, it all turned around. But, you will not agree due to your hatred for Ragan and the Republicans that prevents you from objectively assessing the news stories I once sent you to illustrate that point. Sheeple Analyst: And after all this, you still have not acknowledged that you totally misread the article that YOU sent to me to document your opinion about WMD. Strange what you find interesting, because you don't have a clue what I have examined, analyzed for pattern fit, and either tentatively accepted or tentatively rejected. Why should I have to share with you all the information that I have encountered prior to finding information that fits an historical or event pattern? You complain about too much information anyway. Why confuse you with too much information when you can't handle the little bit that I DO share? If someone on AlterNet is quoting identified sources and not just babbling opinions, it can be a useful source. This is also true of LewRockwell and American Conservative. But even AlterNet can be a propaganda machine from the left just as WND and NewsMax is from the right. Both have to be used with maximum caution. It is a laughable lie that I have ever quoted ANYTHING from MoveOn.org. I delete anything and everything that they send as I do with the Democratic Party or Howard Dean or Kerry. I did, however, ONE TIME refer to a site related to MoveOn.org., misleader.com which had mentioned a CNN report that referred to a White House Terrorism Report which I then found on the Bush's own gov site. So you huff and puff and march around like a little tin soldier because my research trail started at a site you don't like even though it ended with the Bush Administration's own words. You still don't get it that governments have been established and destroyed by those who have the power to manipulate the news, create events, deliver distractions, split the tickets, and steal votes if need be so that their favored candidate is "elected." We have had sham elections for more than a century and you still think that the people "elect" their leaders. How very Pollyanna of you! At least you have outgrown the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus...oops, did I let something slip? I can imagine that you still think that deposits in the bank provide the money from which a loan is made. And perhaps you still think that the Federal Reserve creates money. You seem to think that monetary policy is made by the President if that president is Jimmy Carter, but it's made by Congress if the president is Ronald Reagan or George HW Bush--but you would be wrong in BOTH cases. Not only is your logic skewed, your facts and premise are totally false. The Federal Reserve formulates monetary policy and the puppet politicians dance to the tune. Paul Volcker had more to do with monetary policy than the presidents "under" whom he served. Now Greenspan has more to do with monetary policy than Clinton or Bush. Carter couldn't get the hostages back from Iran because someone in the Pentagon made sure that there was a mix up in the attempted rescue and vp candidate Bush ensured that the hostages would not be released until the moment of the Reagan/Bush inauguration. The fall out of the Iran-Contra deal was that we had to arm Saddam Hussein to the teeth, including chemical and biological weapons, to counter Iran's military superiority. Then we spent the next 25 years trying to get the WMD out of Hussein's reach if it took the deaths of hundreds of thousands of the Iraqi people to do it. The old fables about how the money system works, how politics works, and the role of citizens in elections can be hard to shake unless your organic computer refuses to stay programmed and keeps rejecting the software. The organic computer of sheeple is easy to program. They are but organic computers absorbing all the hidden programs without awareness or concern Your news stories about Reagan were based on old myths and poor logic. I, too, sent you a few Reagan stories that you didn't seem to absorb too well. There were huge deficits after Reagan's "glory years" that you would blame on Democrats in Congress. Then you roll out the Strategic Defense Initiative as one of the factors that brought the Soviet to its knees even though that was a major factor in the bloating deficit. Your proud recollection of the outpacing of the Soviet Union does not recognize the initiative of Carter to ensnare the Soviet Union in Afghanistan which Reagan and Bush inherited and created blowback terrorism. Unfortunately there is no way to fully present this to you because a simplistic black and white scenario does not exist, just an interplay between factions that trap sheeple in the middle of the chaos, bleating and running from one fence to the other totally bewildered and desperate. You seem to prefer the simplicity of simple-minded opinions bereft of real substance or basis. You formulate everything as hatred of this or hatred of that. In so doing you show some of your primary motivations are based on hatred because you expect that others must hate as you do. Just because I disagree with Reagan's policies (and his policies have hurt many people domestically and around the world) doesn't necessarily mean that I HATE him. That's your projection of your own modus. A projection is a lie about other people that originates in you and it's YOUR hatred that blinds your objectivity toward anything outside your safe zone, your Ideology. Your disenchantment with "malaise" under Carter sounds more like an irrational psychological condition than a mature reality-based objectivity stemming from an academic education. The warm, fuzzy shelter you found in Reagan is not exactly based on reason as much as feeling and mood. You could feel the puffery of the Uncle Ronnie image and feel comfort. You didn't need facts, principles, and/or logic. Strong, bellicose opinion would satisfy. Rather than swinging wildly from being a liberal Democrat to a jingoistic Republican you COULD have considered a place of neutrality to search for truth not simply leaders. But the scared little boy inside the grown man seems to need a strong authoritarian father figure to keep him feeling secure and safe, and little boy will do his utmost to hide the abuse and crimes of the father-protector even from himself. Or he could come of age. Sheeple Analyst sent: "It is evident that U.S. policy in Iraq has been based on faulty assumptions about Iraqi attitudes. There is no silent majority of pro-American Iraqis. Instead, most Iraqis regard the U.S.-led mission as an occupation, not a liberation, and they want that occupation to end immediately. A majority of Iraqis endorse attacks on coalition forces, at least under some circumstances, and they do not want a Western-style democracy for their country." http://www.cato.org/dailys/05-18-04.html Meaning you were sold a bull of goods, a cartload of camel dung. Sheeple Analyst: Then what was the point of the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq? No WMD, no terrorist links, increased exposure to nuclear proliferation, torture and terror worse than Saddam, and the facade of democracy turned into a charnel house. It managed to push the US into deeper debt, exacerbate an already fragile economy, push Muslim oil-producing states to dump the US Dollar as their medium of exchange for oil purchases, destroy the value of the US Dollar, destroyed any credibility the US still had diplomatically, set up thousands of our troops and their leaders for war crimes and crimes against humanity and prepare the way for WW III. Exactly this scenario was foreseen BEFORE the war, Bush and the sheeple were warned by military leaders, strategists and diplomats. But, OH NO, the Zionist neocons had to have their bloody scrimmage and boastful braying about how tough we were and the sheeple fell in with the marching band and the war rallies.....Rah, Rh, Rah! Sisss..Boom! BAH! Mr. Sheeple: "No WMD, no terrorist links, increased exposure to
nuclear proliferation, torture and terror worse than Saddam, " Sheeple Analyst: If there had been sarin in the shell, no one in the vehicle in which
it was being transported would have lived. Experts in CBW suggest the
ingredient was one of the compounds that mixed with another compound would
have created sarin--a binary CBW. The other component would have been
added just before use. It was missing the active ingredient, therefore, no
CBW, just an artifact which resistance fighters attempted to use thinking
that it was regular munitions. You are really stretching to maintain this
lie. Sheeple Analyst: Zarqawi and Zawahiri are 2 different people. Zarqawi is Jordanian and is a member of Ansar al Islam (helpers of Islam) and Zawahiri is an Egyptian and is in "al Qaeda," Osama´s right hand man. Although a Zarqawi email has been bandied about, it is more likely a Psyop plant. 3. Increased exposure to nuclear proliferation? Low level radiation perhaps, due to use of depleted uranium, but not "proliferation' in the sense of building a stockpile of nuclear munitions. Sheeple Analyst: You've forgotten the unguarded nuclear facility. Two weeks it was left unguarded as people when in and out at will. A few months ago, the IAEA warned that nuclear components and materials from Iraq are being found in cargoes in many parts of the world. What the Bush Administration claimed to fear before the war was ensured by their "negligence" in Iraq. 4. Toreture and terror worse than Saddam? Did the unfortunate Abu Ghraib incident in the middle of the night, perpetuated by a few, involve shredding people in a plastic shredder? Dipping people alive in acid? Dismembering people alive? All that was reported by Iraqis who witnessed that, and existence of mass graves where Saddam buried thousands who opposed him. Sheeple Analyst: Upon occupying Abu Ghraib, no evidence was found of vats of acid or the infamous shredder. I gave you the citation on that but the legend lives on in your mind. We had Iraqis witnessing that there were mobile laboratories to create biological weapons but that turned out to be a lie. The nuclear program rejuvenation proved to be a lie. Niger yellowcake turned out to be a lie. The aluminum tubes made us look stupid. The Iraqi "insider" who supposedly knew exactly where the WMD was stored could not find anything when the invasion had secured the sites....another lie. The lying has been legendary....a legend in your mind now? You seem to be more open to believing the lies than finding out that they have been debunked. Even the Bush Administration is accepting that they've been lied to. Today the lead Iraqi liar and conman was arrested in Iraq and lead off to prison...bye, bye Chalabi. We'll have to find another liar to replace him. As for the charge that Bush
falsely declared that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, this would be
fatal if it were not for one dismally inconvenient fact: The same
assertion was made repeatedly, over the years, by the United Nations, the
French, Germans and Russians; by every major Democratic politician in the
United States, including Clinton, Gore, Albright and Berger; by Reps.
Pelosi and Waxman; and by Sens. Daschle, Kennedy, Byrd, Levin, Graham and
Kerry (Kerry in a 2002 speech: "[T]he threat of Saddam Hussein with
weapons of mass destruction is real.") Sheeple Analyst: Such sloppy thinking. Just because someone thought something in
1992, 1993, 1994.... doesn't mean that they would think it is true for
2003. You call that logic? There were 8 years on intensive inspections and
by the onset of the War in Iraq, MANY people said that believing Iraq had
WMD was inaccurate and outmoded. I can just imagine a mechanic saying to
you with a smirk that he had no way of knowing that your car had a
computer to regulate fuel-air mixtures. You would have to agree with him
because that's the understanding of many mechanics "over the years." One
would not have to be a liberal to understand that. But a sheeple can be
lead around quite easily with sloppy logic and disinformation. What was so much better about American education in the 50's that you can use such logic? Mr. Sheeple: WITH ALL the news coming out
of the Middle East, here is a detail you might have missed: A few weeks
ago, the United Nations shut down the Ashrafi refugee camp in southwestern
Iran. For years Ashrafi had been the largest facility in the world housing
displaced Iraqis, tens of thousands of whom had been driven from their
homes by Saddam Hussein's brutality. But with Saddam behind bars and his
regime crushed, Iraqi exiles have been flocking home. By mid-February the
camp had literally emptied out. Now, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees
reports, "nothing remains of Ashrafi but rubble and a few stones." Sheeple Analyst: Well, that's wonderful news.....except that nobody has told them
that they are going back to "Hiroshima and Nagasaki" without Geiger
Counters to guide them. Should we tell them about American weapons of mass
destruction built with Uranium components for the business end of things.
Nearly all American bullets, 120 mm tank shells, missiles, dumb bombs,
smart bombs, 500 and 2,000 pound bombs, cruise missiles, and anything else
engineered to help our side in the war of us against them has Uranium in
it. Lots of Uranium. The military likes to call it "depleted" uranium just
to trick the fools into believing it's benign stuff. But then the Iraqi refugees might as well go home to Iraq. Being in
Iranian refugee camps would also be harmful to ones health because the
dust can blow over Iran, Afghanistan, India, Pakistan ........ Saddam was
a piker at killing and torturing people. It was time to send in the
professionals at that: US Murder Inc. (from Bob Nichols, previously published at http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Mar04/Nichols0327.htm Sheeple Analyst:
allen heart spotted this on the The Observer site and thought you should
see it.
Mr. Sheeple@f......
wrote::
If the trailers are, indeed, a means of "producing hydrogen for artillery
balloons", a couple of questions come to mind: Sheeple Analyst replies: The CIA is supposed to provide the
Executive with information on which to base their decisions. They did
their job. They told the administration and anyone who checked out a wider
variety of news information that the basis of the intelligence was NOT
trustworthy and the Bush Cabal chose to go ahead nevertheless. They set up
the Office of Special Plans to cook their own "intelligence" to provide
the plausible deniability. They violated the trust of the American people
and lined the pockets of Halliburton with no-bid contracts as well as
ever-present Bechtel. And because too few Americans believed the
propaganda of their leaders, our soldiers are trapped in a lie they cannot
escape. And when they are given leave, they must pay their own tickets
home. True, that was announced. Perhaps the information was faulty or
deliberately deceiving by Saddam loyalists. Perhaps the warheads they were
seeking at the time had since been moved over the border into Syria,
Jordan or elsewhere as later reports concerning a convoy of trucks
indicated. Or, perhaps they were actually destroyed, as later reports
indicated, but perhaps Saddam was bluffing by not showing proof they were
destroyed, as later reports indicated as a possibility. This vial of
botulism had been in that refrigerator since '93 perhaps as "seed" once
the furor died down. Sheeple Analyst:
Rumsfeld assured us on the eve of the illegal invasion, that he knew
exactly where they were. Bush and Powell assured us that the danger to the
US was immanent, not just potential.
Botulinum toxin is also used for
creams for smoothing wrinkles.
Sheeple Analyst: Mr. Sheeple sent this: USATODAY.com - Saddam was a grave threat http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2004-03-17-oppose_x.htm Sheeple Analyst: You're a real sucker for lies and liars.
That's a lie. The US Army War College (USAWC) undertook a study of the use of chemical weapons by Iran and Iraq in order to better understand battlefield chemical warfare. They concluded that it was Iran and not Iraq that killed the Kurds. /Politics%20and%20History/GaseousLies.htm
That's intentionally vague and mostly a lie. Hans Blix, head of UNMOVIC, protested the ending of inspections. The UN Security Council was opposing the pre-emptive violation of International Law and the UN Charter Scott Ritter, head of UNSCOM said that there was no evidence of WMD. Just to name a few.
That was highly questionable then AND now and was NOT the issue over which the US Murder Inc. went to war.
Since when is intent sufficient cause to destroy a country and kill its
people? Mr. Sheeple: don't call me a liar or a "sucker for lies"! I just sent that for your information. Sheeple Analyst:
For your information, I don't need lies sent to me. I am looking for
what is true. There are many more lies than truth these days. Information
is about truth. If you have something true to share, something that can
stand the test of evidence, facts, and honest analysis and discussion, I'm
eager to see it. When it has more holes than Swiss cheese and twice as
moldy as Limburger, I don't need it. If it was in my fridge I would get
rid of it before it stunk up the house. If it's full of holes and can't be
held up to the light, I call it a lie. When it stinks, I hold my nose and
scold the liar who brought it in. By your actions you are known.
Mr. Sheeple: "But another reason for the media silence may
stem from the seemingly undramatic nature of the "finds" Hanson and others
have described. The materials that constitute Saddam's chemical-weapons
"stockpiles" look an awful lot like pesticides, which they indeed
resemble.
Sheeple Analyst: Guess we better start shutting down
pesticide making around the world starting right here. I've always
considered the careless spraying of pesticides as a WMD. I suppose a farm
and orchard store in Baghdad should be considered evidence of Iraq's
failure to comply with the UN resolution. Diplomacy US Style: The Removal of Jose Bustani Demonstrates George Bush's Contempt for Cooperation
In fact, Bustani had begun negotiations with Saddam to bring Iraq into
the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. That seems to
have ignited Bush Administration opposition to Bustani's leadership which
they had praised the previous year. 
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