Sheeple Analyst: Now these are not all
technical jobs and the basis for the outsourcing is not just industrial
jobs. The basis is MONEY.
Mr. Sheeple:
So, what else is new? It is something I have been complaining about for
some time myself. I focused on "technical jobs" for the simple fact that
manufacturing is basic to everything else. With out manufacturing, niether
the computers or other items of business, industry, offices, etc. can
exist. Anything not made in the United States must either be imported or
do with out! Even computer programming and other Information Technology
jobs are going overseas along with service jobs such as customer service
centers for product manufacturers.
Guess you just finally figured out that which I have been trying to
explain in the past.
Sheeple Analyst: You spent a week going around the
Tutti-Fruiti Express insisting that the issue is manufacturing while I was
broadening the scope to include other professions and careers. Now YOU are
on board the big train and claiming that you were there all the time, that
you practically owned the discussion. Sorry Mr. Sheeple, the evidence has
been published in your own words. Can't slither out of that one. But I'm
glad you do see that it is NOT about training but about MONEY--Cheaper
labor. It's also about the gutting the middle class in America on the way
to global domination of the NWO. You just wanted to take on the
educational establishment when the real reason remained hidden Your
educational reform effort would have been just a distraction from the real
issues. THAT is what I was trying to get across to you. And you fought me
tooth and nail. I'm happy for you that you are on the truth train but
don't muddy the waters by starting to tell lies or we'll all boot you off.
Liars are not bound for glory on the truth train.
Mr. Sheeple:
"educational reform effort would have been just a
distraction from the real issues"
The real issue is the lack of an educated workforce! Two weeks ago, I
interviewed the general manager of a job shop machining company who
pointed out that in response to his previous ad in the paper seeking CNC
help with knowledge and experience in CNC machining, he had 30 applicants
and none of them were worth hiring becuase they were dumber than a stump
but had a high school diploma!!
Sheeple Analyst: Still, in spite of telling me that I was
finally understanding YOUR issue, you still didn't get what I said this
time VERY clearly: the criterion is MONEY not just technical education.
You foam at the mouth that students don't have a functional literacy when
you can't even read a sentence for comprehension. Here it is distilled for
greater understanding:
I stated:
Now these are not all technical jobs and the basis for the
outsourcing is not just industrial jobs. The basis is MONEY.
To which you responded:
Guess you just finally figured out that which I have been trying to
explain in the past.
And I said:
I'm glad you do see that it is NOT about training but
about MONEY--Cheaper labor. It's also about the gutting the middle class
in America on the way to global domination of the NWO. You just wanted
to take on the educational establishment
when the real reason
remained hidden
To which you replied:
What the
hell are you talking about?
That's the Tutti-Fruiti Express
we did a few months ago. Remember. It was a lengthy, but classical case of
going round and round and getting nowhere, typical of the thought
processes of sheeple. I've run into that problem myself as owner/operator
of Growing Green Nursery and Landscaping. Before I sent out Marc, a
graduate of the local vocational school in landscape construction, to
begin the installation of a timber stairway from the top of a lakeside
hill to the shore, I had drawn the 3-D, the landscape and the overhead
view, rehearsed the process of setting the timbers. Then I asked him if he
understood. He said he did. When I got out to the jobsite an hour later,
he had begun cutting and setting first timbers FROM the top of the hill
down and had he completed the job the descent would have taken him to the
middle of the lake. Clearly he did not understand the drawings that I had
given him, the instructions I had given him and didn't even understand
what it was that he didn't understand. Next day he asked me for a raise!
I see that same incapacity in
this case and I begin to understand that it is much more widespread than I
had thought. Now I understand the hidden flaw in democracy or even in the
freedom to choose within a federated, constitutional republic: sheeple can
be unbelievably stupid.
Mr. Sheeple: You fail to understand the point that
AMERICAN MANUFACTURING CANNOT COMPETE IN WORLD MARKETS WITH OUT AN
EDUCATED WORKFORCE! Yes, it is about money. But there is no point in
paying uneducated U.S. workers big bucks if they cannot effectively setup
and operate machine tools and be productive. To remain competative, they
ship the jobs overseas and to avert that, I proposed to create an educated
workforce to address the problem. As I have previously stated, the major
problem is a lack of an educated workforce rather than "cheaper labor". I
get my information from interviewing managers of machining facilities who
should know more about the realities of the manufacturing
business/workplace than you do, you having never worked in industry in
your life and therefore assume more than you really know.
Sheeple Analyst: I have not failed to understand that AMERICAN
MANUFACTURING CANNOT COMPETE IN WORLD MARKETS WITH OUT AN EDUCATED
WORKFORCE. I have simply not agreed that educational preparation is the
primary factor in the loss of American jobs.
That's why I tried to get you to look up to smell the coffee and see the
world around you instead of burrowing deeper into your narrow focus on
manufacturing. What happened in Minnesota government bureaucracy has
little to do with a technical education and a lot to do with budgets,
which are an issue that can be readily manipulated as they have been for
over one hundred years. What has been happening in IT shows the same
primary factor: no matter the quality of technical education: a corporate
bidding war for the cheapest labor regardless of the needs of a society.
Of what value is an educated workforce if they must compete with those who
can and must accept lower wages and salaries because the US government has
manipulated the governments and political-economic conditions of other
countries and offered incentives for corporations to take their jobs
offshore? All of this will become clearer when the US economy tanks and
your kids lose their jobs, homes, and means of survival and your
investments yield dollars of virtually no value. But you don't learn by
looking for patterns of the past that help you understand the lay of the
land ahead, but by looking in the glove compartment and fiddling with the
flashlight..
How quickly you veer into manufacturing (you like to call it industry) and
think all the answers must be discovered there. It's your special hole to
slam your head into the sand to protect you from thinking an uncomfortable
thought. Like Brer Rabbit you are very much at home in the briar patch
than in the rest of the world and you think that I must spend more time in
the briar patch to understand what you have discovered. I know what you
discovered and I agree that better academic education should be made
available to all career paths INCLUDING VOCATIONAL EDUCATION, but that is
not the reason for the loss of American jobs and an examination of other
jobs can demonstrate that. But you run for cover like a scared rabbit when
anything outside your assumed area of experience is mentioned. I see you
hiding in the briar patch, puffing and panting, eyes wide.
I don't plan to get stuck on your favorite Tar Baby. You have gotten your
information from the manufacturing industry and think that you can
extrapolate that to the general problem. In that fatal mistake lies your
inability to consider other explanations and work toward a real solution.
And that consigns you to being more a part of the problem than part of the
solution.
Mr. Sheeple: Don't
understand why you so naively and ignorantly believe that I am not aware
that Information Technology jobs are going overseas, just because I
addressed manufacturing as ONE EXAMPLE, when the Denver newspapers,
business journals and other publications I read have had ample stories on
the subject?
A Rocky Mountain news story last September, concerned a Denver area IT man
who is losing his $60,000 per year job to someone in India who can do it
for $6,000! In fact, I cited that story in a previous email concerning the
economy, and gave the date of the article. According to a sidebar article
in the Rocky Mountain News of 6-26-03 concerning interest rates of 1
percent reaching a record low noted that interest rates were a normal 1%
in 1958. It also noted that the average annual salary in '58 was $5,500 or
just $500 annually less than the IT worker in India in 2003! The problem
is that varying inflation rates over the decades has cumulatively resulted
in an inflation level that raises American living costs to a level where
higher wages are required to meet them. As a result, American labor is
noncompetative with other nations such as India where living costs are
less and therefore they need less to live.
I wasn't even mentioning IT jobs when I sent the information about
the Minnesota government bureaucracy. Perhaps you didn't notice that I
wasn't pointing toward the fact of the IT jobs going overseas, but toward
the cumulative evidence that educational preparation had little impact on
the problem.
I've noticed that you use such descriptions of me when you have to run for
cover. I said nothing about you being unaware of IT jobs going overseas so
I could hardly be called naive or ignorant about your knowledge. Instead
of responding to the initial assertion of CAUSE, you scramble and shout
epithets over your shoulder like an 8 year old brat wetting his pants
running to his mommy, MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. "Leave my little dickie
alone you bully!" says big momma..
And you still haven't figured out what REALLY causes inflation. It was too
hard for you to understand so you called it boring and ran away to shelter
in the singsong propaganda machine where opinion was sufficient.
I started this thread by a statement about the bidding war for US
jobs. You took off in a tangent about YOUR assertions without addressing
what I had said. As I tried to get you to answer me, you began to be
obnoxious and aggressively tried to force the discussion into another
track without answering my statement. So now you say that you were talking
about an educated workforce whereas I had started the discussion looking
at the bidding war that had little to do with an educated workforce.
I had sent an article about IT jobs being outsourced offshore providing
evidence that being in an educated workforce does not ensure you a job.
You will have to face a bidding war, too. This bidding war, I went on to
say, was entered by the government on the side of the corporations
providing taxpayer funded services such as OPIC. Evidence was provided
that David Rockefeller's report to the Trilateral Commission in the early
70's set the tone for what soon developed.
I hadn't ignored your points, I had pointedly agreed....to a point. But
you couldn't let go of your sing song recitation to rationally consider
the issue. You insisted that I narrowly confine myself to your
"manufacturing is supreme baloney."
Most recently, I presented further evidence in the outsourcing of
government jobs in Minnesota, again demonstrating that a technical
education was irrelevant to the ability to hold a job in a climate of
rampant outsourcing offshore. As before, you went off on your Tutti-Fruiti
Express ride totally avoiding the issue, peddling your same old story. I
brought up "apples" and you said "oranges." Couldn't get you out of the
ideological box to even discuss rationally.
You're at it again.
The National Association of Manufacturers have a better grip on reality
than you do. I focused on manufacturing skills shortages, alleviated via
an educated workforce, AS BUT ONE ELEMENT OF JOBS GOING OVERSEAS. I have
always known about IT jobs going overseas because the stories have been in
the Rocky Mountain news, Denver Post, Denver Business Journal and even on
the internet for anyone who wants to bother with finding out the
information rather than making judgmental assumptions as you do.
When your children's and grandchildren's jobs are moved offshore
you might have a clearer perspective.
The reason I attribute the "Tutti-Frutti
Express" to you is your asinine responses to my basic premise:
- I stated initially that high
school students attending college (to perhaps become a mechanical design
engineer, chemical engineer developing and producing plastics etc.) were
accorded an academic high school education as college preparation.
I had agreed with that
- I stated that an academic high
school education is also essential for for students attending vocational
and technical school to enable them to acquire the requisite maching,
toolmaking, die making or mold making skills because with out skilled
people in the field, there could be no molds for making plastic
components.I had agreed with that
- You then responded by taking me to
task by stating that with out plastics engineers with an education,
there would be no plastic materials developed to inject into the mold.
Your 'chicken before the egg' argument was stupid.
- As noted in #1 above, I
acknowledged that an academic education has always been a prerequisite
to attending college and the same should be required for students not
attending college. I had agreed with that
- You also brought up the premise
that mechanical engineers also need an academic high school education,
though i had acknowledge that from the onset! You just went off
track by insisting the overarching necessity of machinists over other
parts of industry such as mechanical engineers and I was establishing
the interlocking interdependence of industry. You fought that concept.
Your way of thinking is us against them and my way of thinking is we're
all in this together so let's use teamwork to see it through. You like
choosing sides. I prefer finding solutions.
As for "drawing me out" as per all
about money, I hadn't said "all about money." Here you change
the words to suit your needs to win at all costs. I had said that
the PRIMARY factor was the bidding war for US jobs. I was well
aware of the fact (as well as other jobs besides manufacturing going
overseas) that part of the reason for jobs going over seas is "cheaper
labor". But that was due to expensive and noncompetative American labor
rather than some insidious plot to tear down the economic structure of
the U.S. A problem due in a great part to union labor demanding maximum
pay and benefits but with minimal output in quantity and quality.
You wish to fight the anti-union battle instead of looking for
overall solutions. You have never studied the underlying causes of
inflation even though I provided them to you. You just wish to blame
labor. Labor would blame the hard-hearted bosses and the conflict goes
on to destroy both. You don't like to do a careful examination of
history outside the pap fed to sheeple so you could never come to an
understanding based on evidence instead of emotional belief and opinion.
The Federal Reserve tells us in its own publication,
Modern Money
Mechanics that debt creates money and the banks take that for
themselves and expand it up to nine times through fractional reserve
banking. But that was too boring for you so you turned your back on the
information and returned to your easily obtained opinion.
Mr. Sheeple:
In regard to my previous email concerning your concern about my narrow
concentration on creating an educated workforce in manufacturing. Perhaps
due to your own arrogance, and condescending atittitude, you overlooked
the point in my emails that I focused on the need for an educated
manufacturing workforce for the simple reason it is required if the nation
is to compete in world markets and stop the outflow of of manufacturing
jobs to other nations where an educated workforce has been created. Yes,
looking for lower labor costs is part of the equatian because the American
uneducated labor force makes manufacturing economically not practical so
they seek a direct labor force outside the nation! MY PROPOSAL YOU CALLED
THE "tutti-fruit express due to your asinine responses creating the
problem was a proposal to address the problem!!!! I have been in
manufacturing, but you have not, so I know what the hell I am talking
about and tried to communicate that to you. But you responded in an
asinine braying that muddled things up and the result was your naive
assumption that I did not know what the hell I was talking about!
Had you been more objective, perhaps you would have noticed that I was not
concerned only about machining, as you naively assumed! I will lay out the
points so you will understand them. Points due to schools not educating
non-college students but ignorantly assuming they would "learn how to work
with their hands rather than their minds".
- I have talked to electricians who complain about high school
graduates, with diplomas, are unreliable and totally incapable of
receiving, comprehending, and carrying out instructions.... to say
nothing of reading and understanding electrical codes, concerning safe
wiring, set forth for safety puposes by the State and municipalitiesl
- I have talked to carpenters who complain that high school graduates
are too dumb, due to a lack of an academic high school education, to be
depended on for carrying out instructions and getting the job done. They
have to have the same concepts explained time and again because they
lack the academic education that enables them to think and reason!
- I have talked to plumbers who complain about the same things as
carpenters and electricians, applicants who have not the basic concept
of the municipal and state plumbing codes regarding the proper laying of
sewer pipes and other plumbing. Did you know that plumbers use the
Pythagorean Theorem in laying out sewer lines to make sure they are
headed straight toward the tap? My neighbor across the street is a
plumber, and boy, does he bitch about the dummies coming out of the
public schools.
- Our son inlaw, Ken, has been a mail carrier for nearly 20 years in
the Denver metro area. He told us about a HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE as a
Community College student was hired part time at the post office. After
several weeks of "grunt" work carrying mailbags and becoming a janitor,
they gave him a tray of presorted mail, placed him and the mail in a
vehicle and pointed out the first route stop. An hour passed and he
should have been back, so an experienced carrier went out to find him.
He was stopped in front of the first stop and had been sitting there all
that time because he did not know where the next stop was! The carrier
pointed out that the address on the next batch of mail in line was was
for the building next to the first stop, then grabbed half the mail and
went down the block to deliver it and make up time. After finishing
delivery, he returned to find the idiot sitting in front of the second
stop BECAUSE HE DID NOT KNOW WHERE THE NEXT ONE WAS AFTER THAT!
- Stopping to use a pay phone a couple of years ago, I found a bunch
of teen high school students clustered around it as one person was
scanning column after column of listings using his finger as a guide.
Inquiring as to the number they were seeking, they told me (the guy was
in the "A"s yet), so I asked to see the book, turned to the alphabetical
listing of the "M"s and quickly found the number they were seeking by
starting with the beginning of the phone book thicker than a Sears
Catalog. Surprised at how quickly I found it, they asked where I had
learned that. Apparently, the schooling system that has passed for
education over the last three decades has not taught the principle of
alphabetical listings.
- When the computerized registers go down, high school students
working part time and graduates cannot make change by rounding off the
purchase to the nearest nikel and counting out change to the amount
tendered! Niether can they use pen and paper to subtract to make change.
Perhaps this will give you an idea that I am not as narrow minded and
naive in the education situation as you may think, on the assumption you
believe I was focusing on CNC machinists and nothing else. You have taken
liberty of questioning my intelligence in the past, and the effectiveness
of my high school education in '53. Considering my futile efforts to
explain things to you, perhaps the decline began in the late '50s when you
graduated in '59. But it did not seem to hurt M.... any.
I didn't call your proposal the Tutti-Fruiti Express. That was a
reference to your thought processes. You are correct in assuming that I
think that you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You've
proved that voluminously and incessantly. Me arrogant? No, I know I don't
know everything for sure so I am always looking for a crack in the edifice
of lies. You arrogantly think that an opinion is all that you need. Truth
must take a back seat to belief. This makes you a strong adherent to your
faith whichever faith you choose whether it is in a church or not.
I didn't have to assume anything about your focus because you TOLD me that
I should not focus on the forest, you had a tree you wished for me to
examine and you fought furiously to maintain a focus on that tree. You got
that tree down pat but you know nothing of the forest. So when you try to
understand the forest you have only the tree as your reference.
You seem especially attracted to this educational reform because you can
talk about people who are dumber than you. Obviously it makes you feel
much more superior that them. Objectively, I'd diagnose that symptom as a
puny ego trying desperately to puff up a bit to try to cure the pain of
some childhood trauma. I've offered a means to resolve that trauma but
your ego has you cast that aside, too.
Nothing of what you enumerated explains anything, just reports on
anecdotes of stupidity and ignorance. It does nothing to show how
broad-minded you are. You've just repeated your examination of the tree
and given a report of its condition. You've obtained no data on how it
functions and so that you can make an hypothesis as to what has made it
malfunction.
I didn't take liberty to question your intelligence, I just tested it,
probed it, tested it again and I was reporting on my findings. No capacity
for differentiating between evidence and opinion, no capacity to search
for truth outside the box of ideology, no capacity to differentiate
between real logic and pseudo logic, limited database of real facts or
knowledge in scientific thinking, limited database in historical patterns
and causes, unable to examine statements for logical consistency,
foundation in real evidence, or potential for manipulation and
disinformation and an unwillingness to set aside belief system to search
for truth.
Saying a lot of stuff that is irrelevant to the issue does not appear as
intelligence or broadmindedness but as huff, fluff and puff to hide the
vacuity of the presentation. It fools some of the people all of the time,
it might fool most of the people some of the time, but it doesn't fool me
ever.
Mr. Sheeple: The
problem was your "tutti-fruitti" thinking in failing to take into
context previous qualifying statements of mine that addressed the very
concept you tried to portray. Perhaps you would be better off if you
exchanged emails with yourself, and argued with yourself (I can just see
you sending an email to another computer then going over there to refute
it and send a response), rather than waste my time in trying to explain
a simple concept, present supportive evidence and information that you
ignore.
Sheeple Analyst:
You are correct in your own way. I am arguing with a programmed
organic computer, but incorrect that I am making the argument from both
sides. You are correct that it is a futile conversation but for the
enlightenment you have given others in understanding the desparate protection
and security sought by the sheeple and the willful ignorance and
stupidity that resides there in the midst of what was to be an
egalitarian, liberating form of self-government by the people. Instead
we have government of the sheeple and the Illuminati have a easy time
herding them here and there at their whim.
Sheeple Analyst: When I suggested a more global look at the
factors behind the outsourcing of jobs I pointed toward a bidding war for
jobs aided and abetted by government in which educational preparation was
NOT a critical factor but profits are. This was to draw you out to look at
a bigger picture that shot holes in your "educational reform program" that
would not address the larger factor. You spent more than a week fighting
that broader look preferring to keep a near-sighted, narrow focus on an
academic education for technical fields in vocational education and
insisting that I just see it your way.
Now you try to claim that you always knew about it, but you still haven't
noticed that the reason the jobs are going overseas is more related to the
bidding war for cheaper labor than to technical preparation. Still you
focus on the little pond of manufacturing instead of the ocean of jobs in
general. You are the one making the judgmental assumptions by again
myopically focusing on the pond than on the ocean to determine the real
engine of outsourcing. You miss the whole point of what I sent you two
days ago and slither around to your comfortable pond to keep from looking
at the most potent factor in the loss of American jobs--the bidding war
for the cheapest labor. This problem has great impact on the future of
your children and grandchildren and you insist on not looking elsewhere
for answers.
Mr. Sheeple: I was talking about an educated workforce
that would enable American labor to compete, as the main emphasis of my
education reform, and you were wailing about business seeking cheaper
labor. I was "talking about apples" as the main concern, and you were
"talking about oranges" as a very different subject. It was you who got
the "Tutti Fruitti Express" going and kept it going by your circular
rhetoric that totally ignored the points of my initial premise.
- I realize that a quality academic education should exist for all
students This was the point that you forcefully rejected repeatedly
- That universal academic education existed until the late '60s and
early '70s. Not that all student before that obtained an adequate
academic education, however.
- For the last three decades, computer technology has been applied to
manufacturing
- During the last three decades, schools have naively assumed that
students not attending college had no need for an academic high school
education because "they would "learn to work with their hands in manual
skills, rather than their minds. Mr. Born taught shop with that goal
in the 50's.
- U.S. manufacturing was late in adapting computerized machining and
manufacturing technology, due to academic myopia
- The key to competing in world markets is to create an educated
direct labor workforce by restoring the concept of an academic high
school education for all students rather than just for students
attending college. I had agreed with that. Why must we repeat all
this?
- Manufacturing, Information Technology (computer programming) and
other jobs besides manufacturing are going overseas.
- The problem is expensive American labor, due to inflated living
costs, that results in companies seeking lower direct labor costs
overseas. The key is to bring American living costs down to an
affordable level such as existed in the '50s and '60s when $5.00 per
hour was considered a good wage though considered inadequate in today's
inflated living costs. So what caused the inflation? You've refused
to study the causes of that inflation that arises out of fractional
reserve banking and the creation of money out of debt. The banking
system adds enormous inflationary pressure to the economy because it
does not produce anything and skims huge sums off the top.
There, That is my premise. Now don't bother with any response because I
will delete it without even reading it because I am tired of your circular
thinking.
Mr. Sheeple (Sheeple Analyst in bold):
The reason I attribute the "Tutti-Frutti Express" to you is your
asinine responses to my basic premise:
- I stated initially that high school students attending college (to
perhaps become a mechanical design engineer, chemical engineer
developing and producing plastics etc.) were accorded an academic high
school education as college preparation. I had agreed with that
- I stated that an academic high school education is also essential
for for students attending vocational and technical school to enable
them to acquire the requisite maching, toolmaking, die making or mold
making skills because with out skilled people in the field, there could
be no molds for making plastic components. I had agreed with that
- You then responded by taking me to task by stating that with out
plastics engineers with an education, there would be no plastic
materials developed to inject into the mold. Your 'chicken before the
egg' argument was stupid.
- As noted in #1 above, I acknowledged that an academic education has
always been a prerequisite to attending college and the same should be
required for students not attending college. I had agreed with that
You also brought up the premise that mechanical engineers also need an
academic high school education, though I had acknowledged that from the
onset! You just went off track by insisting the overarching necessity
of machinists over other parts of industry such as mechanical engineers
and I was establishing the interlocking interdependence of industry. You
fought that concept. Your way of thinking is us against them and my way of
thinking is we're all in this together so let's use teamwork to see it
through. You like choosing sides. I prefer finding solutions.
As for "drawing me out" as per all about money, I hadn't said "all
about money." Here you change the words to suit your needs to win at
all costs. I had said that the PRIMARY factor was the bidding war for US
jobs. I was well aware of the fact (as well as other jobs besides
manufacturing going overseas) that part of the reason for jobs going over
seas is "cheaper labor". But that was due to expensive and noncompetitive
American labor rather than some insidious plot to tear down the economic
structure of the U.S. A problem due in a great part to union labor
demanding maximum pay and benefits but with minimal output in quantity and
quality. You wish to fight the anti-union battle instead of looking for
overall solutions. You have never studied the underlying causes of
inflation even though I provided them to you. You just wish to blame
labor. Labor would blame the hard-hearted bosses and the conflict goes on
to destroy both. You don't like to do a careful examination of history
outside the pap fed to sheeple so you could never come to an understanding
based on evidence instead of emotional belief and opinion. The Federal
Reserve tells us in its own publication, Modern Money Mechanics that debt
creates money and the banks take that for themselves and expand it up to
nine times through fractional reserve banking. But that was too boring for
you so you turned your back on the information and returned to your easily
obtained opinion.
When your children's and grandchildren's jobs are moved offshore you might
have a clearer perspective.
Mr. Sheeple: The problem was your "tutti-fruitti" thinking in
failing to take into context previous qualifying statements of mine that
addressed the very concept you tried to portray. Perhaps you would be
better off if you exchanged emails with yourself, and argued with yourself
(I can just see you sending an email to another computer then going over
there to refute it and send a response), rather than waste my time in
trying to explain a simple concept, present supportive evidence and
information that you ignore.
Sheeple Analyst: You are correct in your own way. I am
arguing with a programmed organic computer, but incorrect that I am making
the argument from both sides. You are correct that it is a futile
conversation but for the enlightenment you have given others in
understanding the desperate protection and security sought by the sheeple
and the willful ignorance and stupidity that resides there in the midst of
what was to be an egalitarian, liberating form of self-government by the
people. Instead we have government of the sheeple and the Illuminati have
a easy time herding them here and there at their whim.
Mr. Sheeple: You still do not get it!!!!! Manufacturing
is basic to everything, and manufacturing needs skilled production people
capable of carrying out the design ideas of the engineers!! For the last
three decades, schools have been producing mechanical engineers, design
engineers, chemical engineers but not very many direct labor people to
efficiently and effectively carry out the engineer's concepts and designs!
Your assinine excuse below for your "Tutti-Frutti" express BS is the
product of your lack of knowledge and experience in the real world of
manufacturing! You were never on the track, but i was. No, you like
choosing sides and that is reflected in your partisan views based on your
assumption that you know everything about anything and that anyone who
offers an opinion contrary to what you have predetermined is dumb, lying
and not very bright! I have tried to "finding solutions", but my
alternative suggestions have been met with sarcasm. As I stated previous,
you are a "legend in your own mind" when you constantly refer to your
website as if it is the ultimate truth, but that concept exists in your
own mind. You tried to use "LIYOM" behind every phrase of mine in a past
email to imply that I was allegedly a legend in my own mind, perhaps
because you failed to comprehend what the term meant. All I was doing is
expressing an alternative opinion but you were pissed because I had the
audacity to do so rather than becoming one of your own "sheeple" who
quickly agreed with your concepts and devoted my informatin quest to your
website. It aint' gonna work. I tried. You were intractible in your
stance, so there is no more point in any further discussion on the matter
because I resent your constant inferrances that I do not know what the
hell I am talking about and that you know and have all the answers!
For your information, I have now made inroads with a principal of a school
regarding the importance of an educated workforce. I mentioned to him my
"human mind as an organic computer" phrase and he agreed fully with it in
its entirety rather than your asinine comments because it was something
that did not originate with you.
Sheeple Analyst: You would never get a car fixed with
that premise. Your premise might be characterized thusly: "the engine of
the economy is manufacturing and unless we focus on fixing it, nothing
else would work." Now that's true....if you understand why the engine
doesn't work. But what if your hypothesis about what makes the engine
malfunction is only part of the answer? What if the main problem is not
about the timing but about the rings. No matter how expertly you fix the
timing, without the rings doing their part, gasses escape when they should
be driving the piston down the cylinder. You know that. And if the battery
is low in importance in the premise of the auto mechanic, it must
nevertheless be checked. Wiring might be cracked or terminals corroded.
Gas lines might be clogged or the gas tank empty. The computer board might
have been zapped or fuses blown. All parts of the car must work
efficiently or it is just a pile of junk. You know that Better check the
tires for wear and checked sidewalls, too. Bet you know that, too.
The engine is NOT basic to everything in the vehicle. Every part of the
vehicle must be in operating condition, not just the engine. Because of a
broken wire the engine will not start. Because of a clogged injector
nothing works. Without gasoline all the perfection of the engine is just
junk. Which part is more important than any other? Yes, door handles are
just nice conveniences and a soft seat provides comfort. But of the
essential array of systems and parts, all of it works as a unity and any
single part of it not functioning within a required range makes the whole
useless. No matter what color you use to explain nonsense, no matter how
vituperous the language, if you don't see the whole picture you have no
clue how to fix it. And not knowing the REAL cause of the problem you can
make it worse.
You wish to just fix the timing? Go ahead. Organic computer has a limited
program. Needs a service technician. The Tutti-Fruit Express was not about
your educational reform effort, it is about the way you think.
Your responses are greeted with derision and sarcasm because you have
established a documented track record of facts that are not factual,
principles that are unprincipled, and logic that is not logical. And you
do it with such conviction and arrogance that makes it laughable and
silly. To compound the irony you display the same lack of academic
education and experience as the dumbed down high school kids you deride.
Not everyone with whom I communicate is dumb, lying and not very bright. I
relish an interplay of ideas and information. I am always learning from
others. Nothing is allowed to be predetermined. "No holds-barred" is how
I've explained it to you in the past, but you cannot think outside your
box, and your box is your intellectual and mental prison. You cannot come
out and play. It's not in your program.
You function in opinion which is useless unless it is based on fact,
principle, and/or logic. An alternative opinion is just a bag of refuse
unless it has basis in fact, principle, and/or logic. So when you offer
your unsubstantiated opinions they are unacceptable to me because they are
empty of real content, devoid of honest reflection and research. You've
come to believe that any opinion means something and therefor others
should respect your opinion even though it has no connection to reality.
Any dummy can have an opinion but that does not make it useful or
valuable. Such a conversation becomes Comedy Central and Fantasyland
wrapped up in colored plastic wrap and rainbow tinsel..Any damned fool can
have an opinion. I'm not interested in the babble of a fool.
If there is something on my website that is not true, tell me about it and
be ready to provide evidence, principles or logic to substantiate your
position. I have no problem changing it. Whenever better evidence,
principle or logic shows error, it is my goal to upgrade understanding of
how the world works. For me, change in the face of substantiated truth is
survival, stasis in the face of facts to the contrary is tantamount to
death. I choose life. What do you choose?
This is a crazy world. What can be done? Amazingly, we have been mislead. We have been taught that
we can control government by voting. The founder of the Rothschild dynasty, Mayer Amschel Bauer,
told the secret of controlling the government of a nation over 200 years ago. He said, "Permit me
to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes its laws." Get the picture?
Your freedom hinges first on the nation's banks and money system. Freedom is connected with Debt Elimination for each individual. Not only does
this end personal debt, it places the people first in line as creditors to the National Debt ahead
of the banks. They don't wish for you to know this. It has to do with recognizing WHO you really
are in A
New Beginning: A Practical Course in Miracles, an informational study.
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